Greetings to all,
my system has been working perfectly for quite some time, if not for a few small glitches, usually caused by me.
I would like some advice on the path to take to carry out these two upgrades.
My system now:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 2200g 4 core
MB: Asrock B450 chipset
Ram: 16 gb (2 x 8 gb) but there are still two free slots for the future
PCI Sata controller: chip JMICRON + JMB582 ( 2 ports)
PCI Network controller; Intel 82576EB
1 x SSD 256 GB for OS system
1 x Nvme 1 TB for docker, exchange folders, ftp (with friends), downloaded folder, movies to watch etc. etc. (unimportant data)
2 x Segate HDD 4 TB - Raid 1 for important data, home automation backup, old songs
2 x Toshiba HDD 6 TB - Raid 1 for family and travel photographs and old film collection
1 x SDD 128 GB for test
the two toshiba are connected to the additional PCI controller the rest to the motherboard controller
the first planned upgrade is the processor, next week I’ll mount an AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 2400g and I think there shouldn’t be any problems, the motherboard is registered on the stable channel, and the processor is a superior model but from the same series.
for the second one, I need information and reassurance. I want to mount a LSI 9200-8i HBA and connect all the disks to it except obviously the nvme. I understood that Rockstor recognizes the disks from the serial, so remove the PCI SATA card, insert the new SAS SATA and connect everything there, when restarting it shouldn’t give me any (bad) surprises. Am I wrong?
I apologize for the long post, but I would like to avoid having to cry, I also leave you a photo of my little Rockstor, who however feels important.
The CPU upgrade should work smoothly, as you said. I am just asking out of curiosity: do you have any bottlenecks regarding your current AMD Ryzen 3 CPU (4C/4T)?
I also have a 4C/4T CPU (Intel Xenon E-2314) in my Rockstor rerver and all the dockers (including 2x Nextcloud) are running smoothely.
Although I can’t find anything about your HBA, it should work without issues.
I also use an mini-SAS → 4x SATA cable to connect all my SATA HDDs to the SAS port of my Motherboard without anny issues.
I am just asking out of curiosity again: Why you would like to buy an SAS HBA without SAS drives?
There are usually cheaper SATA PCIe cards and even SATA M.2 cards (if you have a M.2 slot to spare) that you could also connect your SATA drives to.
At the moment the mounted Ryzen is 4C/4T, the integrated graphics card is not supported by Jellyfin, which we use a lot at home, and has a TDP of 65W, while the Ryzen Pro has 4C/8T, the graphics card is supported at least partially and it is possible to make it work at 45W of TDP.
At the moment some torrents, legal obviously, Jellyfin, and some other Dockers do not create problems for me, but I intend to migrate to Rockstor, with which I get along very well, also Home Assistant, my true passion , which currently runs on a dedicated machine. So since it was an opportunity I took the new processor.
At the moment my motherboard has 6 SATA ports, one in common with Nvme, which I use as a disk for the fast exchange of non-vital data, so 5 remain.
One for the operating system, one for the tests, 2 for the first Raid and I had to add a PCI 2 x SATA card to complete the second Raid. I need a dedicated disk for the historical data collected by H.A. and I would like to expand the two Raid with 3 disks instead of 2. I would also like to dedicate myself to creating a cache disk one day, but not immediately.
At this point, having found a HBA SAS card with 2 cables for 8 Sata ports, used, disassembled from an HP server at a low price, I thought of taking it, connecting all my Raids there (4 disks at the moment 6 later), data drives for H.A. and the disk for my tests. In this way I keep the Nvme and have 5 free ports on the motherboard for future developments. If everything works.
I hope I explained myself.
Last but not least, the more I use it the more I find Rockstor very useful.
Great, looks like you put some thoughts into your decisions
I would be curious whether you notice a “idle” power draw difference between these CPUs. From what I’ve read so far, the TDP of a processor has little to do with it’s idle current consumption - which is the most relevent for the power draw of a server.
The graphics card (that you inted to use with the Ryzen Pro) should also work on the Ryzen 4C/4T with integrated graphics. So you could just add the graphics card to your current CPU to get arround the Jellyfin limitations.
Home Assistant is great and I also run it in docker on top of Rockstor
sound reasonable of course, when you got a used one cheap
Hi,
at the moment, I monitor Rockstor’s consumption with H.A. and on average, not in use, except for torrenting, the consumption of the entire system is around 42/43 Watts, with increases to 55/60 W when using Jellyfin or with HDD in rotation, with peaks of even 85/90W when restarting.
As soon as I can mount the new CPU, monitoring will restart and I will see if there will be decreases or not in absorption.
I have not researched thoroughly, but the Vega 8 mounted on the RYyzen 3 is not supported by Jellyfin, while the Vega 11 of the Ryzen 5 pro is partly supported. We’ll see.
Obviously, if I had not found the used HBA at a good price, I would have bought a second PCI SATA card or replaced the one with one with a greater number of ports, to keep some free PCI slots for a future upgrade to a 2.5 Gb network or more.
Greetings and have a nice day
at the moment here in Italy it is 8:47 AM
Dado
hi,
for your curiosity, after having done the upgrades I can confirm that the idle consumption of the Ryzen 5 PRO CPU has remained practically the same, maybe 1 or 2 watts less, but I added the HBA SAS card which will certainly have increased consumption. The correct model of the card, I had given you incorrect information, is LSI 9220-8i.
The assembly, and the movement from the controller to the HBA was completely painless with Rockstor.
The system works perfectly and I am thinking of replacing the nvme unit given the impossibility at the moment of managing it via S.M.A.R.T., with an SSD for the quick exchange folders with non-important data.
I personally would not buy a SATA SSD today, especially when they are about the same price.
The SMART standard for NVMe SSDs is much better standardised and comparable between vendors.
Yes, the Rockstor web interface is not displaying the SMART data of NVMe SSDs yet, but they will work on that.
You can still utilise smartmontool to send you notification e-mails when an issue occurs:
yes, scrutiny supports smart and all data for nvme, I did not stop if it is possible to manage the alerts because on the nvme I have data that can also be lost.
Since the Rockon already has the configuration directory mapped, I suspect you might be able to enable notification by playing with the configuration file examples mentioned here:
but it’s certainly not (yet) through Scrutiny’s WebUI.
, which currently runs on a dedicated machine. So since it was an opportunity I took the new processor.
